Lost why do they want claire
The creators are aware and have admitted this as well. But to those who can acknowledge the praiseworthy art form that is LOST, enjoy it. I know I'll be re-watching the entire series after the conclusion and appreciating its depth even more. I was totally expecting Ben part of the couple "adopting" Aaron so I was a bit surprised. That would have answered or made sense why Claire was told to not let the LA couple to adopt Aaron. He's been seriously stoic or business-like prior to this episode and suddenly as he's about to be tortured his whole persona changes as he cries,begging Dogen to stop.
Clearly he's been "infected" or his body has been taken over by some other being. Theory: in the Alt-Lost universe, Christian's body is not found.
Jack has to keep returning to the airline to check on the status. The airline finally finds his body and Jack says that he will go and escort the body himself because he's POd about the whole situation. He ends up back on a plane. In the meanwhile, Claire had to give birth to Aaron and since there is no one there to adopt the baby, she has to go back to Australia, so she has to get back on a plane. Kate is running from the law and after exhausting her options, somehow schemes herself back to the airport to board a plane.
Sawyer learned that Hugo is rich and somehow tries to run a scam on him Hugo is embarassed that he was scammed so he books a trip to calm his nerves- on a plane. Sayid never passed TSA security, so they end up shipping back where he came from Locke took Jack up on his offer to look at his spinal injury and Jack performs surgery that enables him to walk again, so reschedules the walk-about in the Outback.
Boone got a call from his sister that she is ready to leave her abusive boyfriend, so he goes back for her too. Desmond got a call from Penny that her dad died so they are free to be together, so he books a flight. Charlie is being sent back to where he came from because of his drugs.
Rose has cancer right , so she already died while in LA so her husband is taking her ashes back to Australia All in all And this time there are no survivors. The End. Why exactly was Widmore banished from the island.. Did she know that she shot her own son back in 19 whatever? Is that why helped them to get back And do I remember that Faraday and Penny are bro and sister, but Penny seems much older that Faraday, so how in the heck is that possible if Widmore knocked up Faraday back when they were on the island?
Why would anyone that did not watch a show,any show,bother to comment on it? I watched the first episode of "Suvivor" Never went back,never read anything about it,it does not exist for me. So why read anything about a show you say you don't watch? I've stuck with "Lost"thro all the red herrings and such,but I want a payoff! A big one!! Since its been confirmed that the show is not a dream, or Purgatory, it could still all just be Hurley's perception of reality.
All of the cast members are either working at the mental institution, or patients like Hurley is. Im strangely drawn to watch this show every week. If you dont like to be confused then go make brownies in the kitchen.. Im sure you can handle that.. No one said you "have to watch lost". If you dont like Lost then good for you Im so sick of hearing about you people griping about the show The infection makes so much more sense of what happened to Locke when Ben shot him.
I think the infection is the man in Black. Christian Shephard, John Locke, Walter, etc. I don't see how folks are saying these first three episodes have been great. I just don't feel the story has progressed at all. The most the story has progressed with the last minute of last night episode with Claire running around like a crazy french woman. Other than that these episodes have been complete snoozers.
What about the 'others' in the temple calling Sawyer by the name Ford. The guy said something like the follwoing to Jack after Sawyer escaped "Where did your buddy Ford go" referring to Sawyer and Jack said "what" and then the guy said "where did your buddy go".
Wasn't Ethan already born when the hydrogen bomb went off? I know they were trying to evacuate all women and children, but he was definitely on the island at birth. Agreeing with one of the above, stopped watching because of the high frequency and long duration of commercials. Tried TiVo'ing, developed tendinitis. LOST is weird but these lengthy comment postings are certainly an indicator that we can't stop watching!!!!
It's time to quit complaining and enjoy being LOST since most of what's on television is mindless anyway. If you want to live in the real world, watch CNN. Everything will come together before its over and if not what fun would it be if it were predictable?! ABC and the writers are doing their jobs. My theory Locke has been in a coma since dear old Dad pushed him out of the window and this has all been an elaborate dream I was thinking the scenes of Kate, Claire, etc in LA were to show what would have happened if the plane had never crashed.
That fate still brought them into each other's lives. You see Claire in the taxi after the trip from Australia and she's pregnant; Kate is trying to escape and winds up with Claire in the taxi — there's fate intervening to introduce Claire and Kate Kate brought Aaron back from the island to raise him thinking Claire was dead Does anyone else besides me see the parallels between Lost and the Holy Bible? Here is just a brief list to ponder:. God vs. Satan — Jacob vs. Man in Black? Jesus — Richard, who never ages and remains the same?
Judas — Ben? Beast — smoke monster? Lazarus — Sayid raised from the dead? Adam and Eve — bodies found in the cave? Temple in Jerusalem — the island temple? Pool called Bethesda John — healing waters in the temple? Resurrections or demon possessions — dead seen alive again on the island? This show was one of my favorites in the first season. The second season was "ok" but by the third, they went off the deep end!
No good anymore. My thought has always been why not come up with short stories to go thru the seasons with? Like end Lost and the last "go down in flames" Prison Break after a season or two? I am really getting frustrated this season There are still more new characters and more plot lines????
Please start answering some questions and I hate to say I have been a fan from the beginning, but I am getting exhausted and my enthusiasm is waning!!!! Thanks to all those that help me get it!!! Dead Christian on the island and off is the man in black as well.
Watch "The Incident" episode in the beginning when Jacob and the man in black are talking. The man in black says "They come, fight, they destroy, they corrupt. It always ends the same". Jacob then says "It only ends once, anything that happens before that, it's just progress. I stopped watching after season 3, when it was still good. I am having fun reading all of these comments though!
I have a bad feeling for everyone that your questions will never be answered and the show will never end up making sense! Other religions have similar back stories and lessons. Religion was the first form of explaining the universe. The sciences later developed. This show is about all forms of knowledge. We all want explanations so we make up stories like God did "this" or gravity does "that". It's all just to show people that no matter what stories you tell yourself about the way things are So yes, the whole Jesus story has its part in the LOST program, but don't base the whole plot on just one perspective.
Learn something. Google some key words you may not know and figure out what they are truely contributing to this tapestry. I hope the lost reveal is better than Cloverfield turned out to be. Wasn't Ethan still born on the Island before they detonated Jughead? So how did he get off and end up in LA? Unless my timeline is wrong definitely possible by now Julliette delivered Ethan back in Dharmaville in the 70s, then they blew up the bomb I don't know, it's not really important probably, I just love this show and want it to end satisfyingly.
You ask, how will Kate unite Arron and Claire? I think the answer is, she just did. Maybe it is what they can accomplish in terms of redemption back in civilization that determines their ultimate fate on the island. Kate gave up her safety to help Claire. All of the castaways who returned on the LA bound plane were in pretty crappola situations in their lives. If Kate has redeemed herself by helping Claire, perhaps she will now be able to leave the island.
Perhaps mainland scenarios for all the castaways will be similar, where they need to redeem themselves in order to ultimately leave the island and become "whole" people. The writer doesn't say that Claire never got on the plane. He writes that she never gets to the island in the version of the story where the plane lands safely in LA and the crash never happens. I think it is interesting that Claire's life still intersects with the same people that she was with on the island.
I am wondering if Kate will still end up with Aaron in that version of the story. People stop complaining about the writer not including a Spoiler Alert, and including info about the episode in the title What do you think will be discussed???!!! And if you don't watch the show, you don't like the show, you stopped watching the show, your neighbor doesn't follow the show How can you not like it?
There were 3 flashbacks, 2 flashes-forward, and a flash-sideways in the first chapter alone! Of all the possible theories discussed here, I think Terry's is the one that makes the most sense. It would also be one heck of a twist in the ending! The most obvious guess anyone ever has is that it's a Christian story and everybody is in purgatory. We've been hearing this from casual fans since Season 1. They have also said it is not all a dream. It IS a fight between good and evil obviously—what isn't?
Many people think this because their only frame of reference for anything is what they hear in church. Great stories and classic literature are full of Biblical references, but that doesn't mean they are Bible stories. This isn't Veggie Tales! I can etll if — if this tv series ends up like Nowhere Man I will cancel cable and stick with renting movies.
Helen — if you think the show is stupid, and you stopped watching it, then why read articles about it? That sounds kind of stupid.
They all come back at some point. So no tears for Juliette — YET. I think Sawyer is going to dunk her in the magic pool.
A little Pet Cemetary action 'Lost style'. I bet that still doesn't mean they are lost and can't be saved. He knew something before Sayid woke up. I think he knew he wasn't dead didn't hear anything or he knew that Jacob or the other evil guy moved into his body. My theory for what is happening is simple. A simple answer for a very complex show? It's an elaborate chess game. Good vs. As this theory developed in my mind I began to see the characters as place holders for a much older story.
Jacob is representative of God or Jesus. Smokey is the devil. Ben is Judas. Richard is Peter and so on. Some of the world's oldest tales are about the gods and their earthly meddlings. I freely admit that I could be completely wrong and would welcome the surprise that comes along with it.
For right now however this is my current theory. Or, more accurately, a collection of dreams. Getting knocked out by the white flash at the end of season 5 caused all of this — why do you think that the alt plot has only revolved around people who are the hatch when it's revealed that detonating the H-bomb didn't work mainly, I'm thinking the other characters are abstracts from the dreamer's subconcious? My guess is that this alt plot will be tied up with everyone waking up the hatch, realizing that they are all there for different, important reasons.
In the final scene of the last show.. Bob Newhart is going to wake up and tell his wife he had another wacky dream! This episode was not a great episode by any means. But I still liked the parts about the "Infection", Claire and Kate being together with Ethan in the no-crash time-line and the revelation about Claire. Most people believed that Sayid will be reincarnated as Jacob. I thought that would be a little boring Locke and Sayid fighting each other?
Is this Heroes, with Peter and Sylar fighting each other? But what really happened to Sayid was interesting. I believe that he is really dead. And the "infection" they are talking about is the MIB or the smoke monster "claiming" or possessing their bodies. The same happened to Christian Shephard and Claire. I had a theory long time back that Claire was dead. This actually proves that — Claire died in season 4 in the bomb blast by Keamy's men.
So when Sawyer got to her, she seemed alive. But it wasn't really Claire. And since the same thing happened to her father, Christian, she went with him. This also explains why Jack never found his father's body.
The same "infection" also happened to Danielle's crew. Remember she had to kill them all when they had "changed"? They had become somewhat evil after getting infected — since Danielle's boyfriend tried to kill her. It kind of makes sense to me. The only thing I can't explain with this theory is Locke.
He was infected too, but his body was found. I liked the part about Ethan and Kate still being involved with Claire's baby. I commented last week that the same group of people were interacting in the no-crash scenario as in the island-crash scenario.
I don't know why but its interesting. Next week's episode seems promising and hopefully it'll be more interesting and eventful than this one. Oh and for true Lost fans — Ignore the people who diss the show.
They really have a lot of free time to read and comment on something they haven't seen for 5 seasons! If they have not seen the show after season 1, how do they even know what they are talking about?
Here is how I see it all ending. Picture a small diner, Jack goes inside and is waiting for Kate, He is looking at the menu and then at the table side Juke Box, Kate comes in and sits down followed by James, they are all waiting for Claire who is outside trying to park her car as they all start munching down on onion rings, you hear Journey playing in the background.
Lost is starting to worry me. With a short season they better start answering some questions and wrap this up! With the whole new Jacob and his opponent thing- this may be stating the obvious but I see a pretty clear God vs Devil analogy here which leads me to the common conclusion that this is all purgatory. Any else think of this? Did anybody catch the comments about the water turning colors before they dunked Sayid last week?
Wonder what that had to do with his infection? The water was clear then turned dark. They are all in purgatory! When this all ends that is going to be the gist of it. The storyline and all of the characters are part of a journey to see which ones are accepted into heaven and which ones are banished.
The season finale last year confirmed what I have been thinking the entire time. I stopped watching this show years ago because it's plot became so lame. Alternate realities are crutches for writers who can't maintain a coherent plot line, but the way this show has stumbled around is simply ridiculous. It's not a complex plot Hopefully Lost and Heroes will be the last of this ilk. God versus the Devil So obvious for so long. One of the great shows to hit the airwaves in a long time In my opinion, Aaron is the key.
He will play a major role in the conclusion to the series. LOST has me for one more episode. So far with a 2 hour episode and last night's one, I could have missed any one hour or 2 dare I say 3 and still be 'lost' or even following the show.
Greatly written, acted and shot With 12 episodes left, I would hope they would start resolving small things along the way to make the finale seem complete and not JAM-packed with resolutions like Hurly in a pair of skinny jeans. The island is just a metaphor for Smurf Village. Jacob Papa Smurf is in charge.
However, Brainy anti-Jacob wants to overthrow him. He can't kill him without eliciting the help of Gargamel John Locke , so he does so, along with Ben Azrael. I think the parallel timeline is an unstable tangent universe that isnt sustainable.
Kind-of Donnie Darko style. She wanted to tell Sawyer that "it worked" because as she was dying she was being sustained in the tangent universe and could see both very briefly.
I think she will have a lot of information when the Losties find her. I'm worried that Sawyer will kill himself before Juliet awakens and tells him she's ok I don't see any way back for him after the latest heartbreak.
Jacob said it only had to end once, everything before that is progress I think that requires our losties to go against their nature, Kate to stop running, Jack to have faith etc I really like the season so far and cant wait to see how it all ties in.
I like that they are finding each other in the same ways even in the tangent universe My thought is that the islanders are in another time-warp and that they ultimately will do something that will stop the time-jumping and put them all on the plane just as if nothing had ever happened. The sequence in LA is a "flash-forward" showing what happened after the sequences on the island.
Thus, there are not two alternate universes, just different timelines. Think of it like the time when Jin was having was delivering the stuffed animal to the hospital when Sun was having her baby.
You thought the timelines were similar, but you found that they were actually years apart. Just a thought about Clair. There was a line of people waiting to get a cab as they emptied out of the airport. Perhaps Clair hadn't exited the cab yet to catch a departing flight since Kate jumped in before she could get out??? Just a thought. Desmond was infected, yet was "cured" by his timely phone call, so death is not the only answer.
I can't agree with the "Desmond flashing through time" thought. He started doing that due leaving the island as explained in Season 4 in the episodes prior to The Constant.
Since the island didn't exist in the alternate timeline, it could not have affected him in this way. Like a poster asked above, is Lost the title or the plot of the show?? Hey AS — Ethan introduced himself as Dr. Goodspeed — the same last name as Horace on the island. But wasn't Ethan the child of Horace and Amy? Something NBC's "Heroes" began doing once they realized their little mid-season replacement got picked up, and failed miserably.
When the show first aired I was intrigued and wanted to see what was going to happen next. Then Ben, who was the survivors arch enemy, became a friend of the survivors and they started to help him, thats when I stopped watching.
It got too stupid after that. Unfortunately, my wife and son started watching it about that time, so now I have to go do something else while they watch this worthless show. In the final episode there will be more questions then answers. I'm a LOST fan no pun intended since season 1. But as everything winds down to a close I get a feeling the overall premise and plot line is getting made up as the show pro- di? I really do hope once all is said and done we can look back on the show and say "Wow!
This all made total sense! Now I need to watch it from the beginning again. But until that time LOST still seems to be a muddled mess. I'm guilty of it too, but we give the writers of Lost too much credit. We think that they've had a grand scheme for the past 5 years when they are actually flying by the seat of their pants. YES there is a general framework they are working around but they definitely have had to regroup every once and a while. They are doing their best to keep it interesting and yes..
If it made sense, I would not be watching it still. How is the show that is built on leaving fans "wanting more", going to wrap up nice and tight. Still can't wait to see how they do it tho. Jack does know Claire is his sister. He put it together when Claire's mom talked to him at his dad's funeral. Claire and Sayid are infected by the 'smoke monster' — just like Rousseu's friends way back when.
Jack's Dad was the smoke monster also- he always has been. The smoke monster can take the form of peope who are dead on the island — like when he became Alex to tell Ben to follow Locke — a person he knew he was going to 'be', now that Locke's body is back on the island.
Remember when he became Eko's brother? That's because his brother's body was on the island. Anyway, after everybody gets their stuff together, and Locke is resurrected, he's going to kill the smoke monster and everyone Claire, Sayid, and probably Sawyer until we're done here will turn back to 'normal'.
Got it? Chang, Desmond was on the plane, he asked Jack about the seat but told the flight attendant told him he could change seats. So he did have a seat. I wish ABC would cut out some of the commercials. There's more commercials it seems than actual show. Show is a joke.
What storyline?? They've been making this up as they go and it shows. I'd like to thank the producers and writers of Lost for bringing television something other than a big Karaoke show. I'll just suggest that people hate what they don't know or understand. But who knows, right? There's so much crap on TV these days, it's great to have something to watch that bends the mind in all these delicious ways.
I also think it's funny how this bit of great TV is weeding out those who'd rather be wall-e style lazy boy sitters man, did that movie nail this concept of lame humanity on the head! The comments of the clueless make me chuckle. Anyone remember how "St. Elsewhere" ended?
I hope this whole show isn't the dream of an autistic child. Adam and Eve in the cave are Rose and her husband. I think that Jacob is wrestling with an angel. The angel can't go home until one of them wins. I would greatly enjoy the continuation of this and also the quantum physics "Timeline" , kinda gets you all in a different frame of mind. Negative replies are ok, cause that's what makes this Great Country Great. Good Luck with all theories here and keep watching, like all good things Lost will come to an end, and those of us that enjoy it, will be saddened, at least for a while.
This is not a Christian TV show. It's not some kind of dumb Sunday school lesson. And it's not all going to be a dream in the end. Robert's comment brings up a good point: Christian symbolism via the Grateful Dead. That sums up the Lost writers pretty well, I think. There is no way Claire could have set that trap with the huge sack of suspended rocks by herself!
Like many, I am addicted to this show and clear my schedule to watch each week. I love the suspense and the questions. I wish it wasn't ending. Don't overthink. The reality is the plane crashed and all on board died. Everything else is a fantasy scenario. Such as, what if some passengers survived on a mysterious island? What if the plane never crashed? In a fantasy, all things are possible, and need no explanation. I've watched this show since day one and feverishly have been waiting for this final season but I have to say I'm beginning to get dejected.
This is the home stretch All in all I was okay with the Temple people, but I'm not sure what the deal is with the Flash Sideways It seems like a cheap way out to satisfy two sets of people. The one who wants the island story to progress and the other that wants the losties be successful at averting the crash and sending it back on it's normal course. After the second episode which for my money is the worst episode in the collective series , I'm almost ready to say forget it.
I mean seriously They get to the temple First they want to kill them all It's vitally important that Sayid live then they try to kill him. Seriously with all the hints that something huge is at stake why all the secrecy? It's ridiculously frustrating at this point. If so much is at stake what on earth is being gained by being so cryptic about everything.
You just expect someone you were all too ready to kill a few hours ago to take it on faith that he should just give Sayid some unknown pill, a doctor at that? Come on writers The only redeeming part of this episode was Sawyer continuing to evolve and even that would have been better without Kate following him around like Puppy Dog. Otherwise it was a complete waste and it's entire substance could have been handled in a 10 minute segment of another episode.
This week was horrible. Why are all you "Lost" haters even on here reading this. Go somewhere else and complain about something you understand. Claire Littleton: Yeah, a little wobbly but I'll live.
Miles Straume: I wouldn't be too sure about that. Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes: I'm gonna close my eyes and count to five, and when I open them you'll be gone. Charlie Pace: I am here. Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes: One! Charlie Pace: Don't do this. Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes: Two! Charlie Pace: They need you. Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes: Three! Charlie Pace: They need you, Hugo. Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes: Four! Charlie Pace: You know they need you!
Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes: Five! Charlie Pace: I want you to give this to Claire for me Desmond Hume: What is it? Charlie Pace: It's the five best moments of my You know Sawyer: Hey, Oliver Twist! Where the hell's my stuff? Charlie: What stuff? Sawyer: You know good damn well what stuff.
I had books, food, porno, a bottle of scotch. Desmond: Apologies for the scotch, mate. Sawyer: You drank it? Desmond: Well, to be fair, there were three of us.
Charlie: Yeah. Sawyer: You, the munchkin, and who else? Charlie: So, you're telling me you saw a flash of Claire drowning this morning, so you knew how to save her? Desmond: I wasn't saving Claire, Charlie I was saving you. This morning, you dove in after Claire. You tried to save her but you drowned. Charlie: What do you mean? I didn't drown. Desmond: When I saw the lightning hit the roof, you were electrocuted. And when Claire was in the water, you drowned trying to save her.
I dove in myself so you never went in. I tried, brother. I've tried twice to save you, but the universe has a way of course-correcting, and I can't stop it forever. I'm sorry - I'm sorry because, no matter what I try to do Christian Shephard: How does one start wanding? Ana-Lucia Cortez: One stops being a cop. Christian Shephard: What a coincidence. I just stopped being a doctor. Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes: Did either of you see a guy run through here Charlie Pace: No Charlie Pace: I saw a polar bear on roller blades with a mango.
Charlie: Anything? Jack: You keep asking if there's anything. Charlie: Pardon me for appearing desperate, but before the pilot was ripped from the cockpit, he did say that no one's going to find us unless we get that transceiver working. Jack: No. Charlie: Okay. Charlie: She's got a bit to learn about being a mum. What happened to Claire in Season 4 of Lost? What episode of Lost does Claire give birth? What did Ethan inject Claire with?
Why is Walt so important in Lost? Does Claire find out about Jack?
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